30 is considered to be filled with many talents, it represents the completion of projects and celebration. 3’s are doctors, lawyers and lecture. Sociable and strong.
- Destiny number 3 relates to Jupiter in the astrological chart.
Jupiter in Hillary’s chart is in the 1st house in Sagittarius, which is a very grand statement of being a lawyer, being in the 1st house her work also involves self promotion, which suggests her position goes beyond being a lawyer but may also be one of Leader
- Jupiter radiates more energy than it receives from the Sun, making it the planet of self-illumination. The remover of darkness, Jupiter is the teacher of righteousness, justice and self-illumination. Jupiter expands the consciousness of everything it touches.
- Jupiter is the planet of courage, boldness, power, hard work, energy, knowledge and speech. Destiny number 3 people work hard, often overloading themselves and developing stresses and strains. 3 can also create disorder in the life.
- Destiny three people are strongly built and full of stamina, and can take unbelievable pressures.
- One weakness of a destiny 3 is the opposite sex, which may bring them opposition from family members and their actions are challenged.
- However, 3’s are lucky and are able to escape this opposition.
- Number 3 destiny has a nemesis to discover within their life path, it relates to the very negative Jupiter behaviour of excesses, they need to avoid excesses.
- The Lucky number 3’s have a change in their luck when they become outspoken and critical. If 3’s do not quickly learn to stop the behaviour, they face all sorts of problems, typically they experience;
- Friends prone to betray them; that they are not benefited by their brothers, love affairs fail and they may end up with a bad reputation, being selfish hampers their growth, any boasting makes people turn away, their pride allows them to miss many opportunities to excel in life and any extravagance creates financial crises.
- But lucky 3 are fortunate in many other ways, they are particularly lucky in accidents, and they always get money when they need it, and they usually materialize their dreams.
- 3’s are born leaders, and may rise quickly in politics, or achieve good positions in government. From ordinary positions they rise to great heights in their careers by hard work, good fortune, a well developed sense of responsibility and conscious planning.
- Should a dispute occur with friends or family, a 3 will often have to throw money at the situation in order to put right their overly enthusiastic planning or their change of plans at the last minute.
- Destiny 3’s enjoy a good family life unless the natal chart indicates differently, their partners are supportive and take on domestic responsibilities, leaving them time to devote their time to a pious cause.
- 3’s partners have to welcome their many friends and acquaintances, many who are poor and in need of social help and care.
- 3’s are warm hearted, generous, fair trustworthy, and often make money through their magnetic personality and charming behaviour.
- 3’s have many friends and helpers.
- 3’s would make good priests. Their interests include ancient history and politics.
- 3’s earn money through different sources; sometimes the means can be quite questionable. But they spend their money on others and put their money to good use, buying comforts and decorations.
- 3’s are very creative, have a good imagination, good intuition and the power of clear expression, both written and oral. However, they do not earn a famous name and money early in their life, when it is desired the most. It comes later at a ripe old age.
- 3’s love tasty foods have comfortable houses that are equipped with all facilities.
- 3’s sleep deeply for short periods of time.
- 3’s believe in peace and happiness for all.
- 3’s can be found in publishing, business, publicity, higher education, research, travel and tourism, import and export, and jewellers and lawyers.
- 3’s may teach their favourite subject of philosophy, they can also serve religious and philanthropic organizations.
The name number the tool used in life, the interactive experience during life.
Hillary Clinton
172/10/1
- 10/1 gives the promise of manifestation that she will be in a leader role like a king.
- Name number 1 relates to the Sun, making people kinglike, royal disciplined, authoritative strong and original.
- These people are remembered for a long time after their death; 1’s make progress in all areas, a 1 name number is good for writers, poets, actors and leaders and all those who come into contact with the public.
- 1’s benefits come through the social field, people want to give to them.
- 1’s are destined to be leaders in their own field of work, success comes through learning to rely on their own abilities, show courage and determination and avoid the negative aspects of selfishness and egotism.
- People look to 1’s for guidance and direction, 1’s are born to be outstanding.
First indication of Presidency
Hillary Rodham Clinton
231/6
Hillary Diane Rodham
177/15/6
Both these names end in a 6;
- 6 relates to the planet Venus, making a person sweet spoken, diplomatic, sensual and romantic. Negatively manipulating.
- 6’s were born to serve humanity with love, duty, responsibility and charitable deeds, 6’s are dependable people, usually 6’s are generous to relatives, but 6’s must learn not to sacrifice, or they will pay dearly.
- People knock at the door for help throughout their life, and the more they do for others, the more love, comfort and money will surround them.
- 6’s need to be in an environment of beauty, companionship, love and harmony.
- 6’s often explore the philosophy of life and spirituality.
This indicates that Hillary would not be at the position she is without having married and changed her name. She is still bound to serve people, people will always come to her with their problems.
The day of birth is called the psychic number, or day number.
26/8
- People born on the 26th of a month are materialistic and capable in business matters, they are ambitious and successful as organisers, administrators or as an executive.
- 8 is the number of confidence and determination, and the people who have it as their psychic number often remain as a bit of a mystery to even their closest friends.
- They are hard working and accept challenges readily, and turn lemons into lemonade.
- 8’s are introverted, patient, reflective, calm, serious, deep, reserved and outwardly well balanced.
- 8’s are sincere in group situations like communities or families, or social organizations and can devote their lives to them.
- 8’s go it alone, they do everything themselves and gain no help from others, even those employed to help them fall away and leave them to get on with it.
- They have a strong presence and a distinctive personality, their strong willpower and serious nature give them strength to handle all kinds of projects successfully.
- Its usual for 8’s to meet obstacles, delays, failures, challenges and only their persistence lasts which lead them to complete their tasks, and this is how they make their names in history, they have a great sense of faith in life and are born to serve a cause usually.
- Their life is one big struggle, which leaves them able to cope with huge upheavals and cataclysmic destruction.
- 8’s are greatly motivated to serve and sacrifice their lives for the benefit of the poor and down trodden.
- 8’s are solitary in nature and do not appreciate humour, and they do not tolerate jokes.
- They are asocial, with few real friends, inside they are gentle and tender, very caring and devoted, gentle people who face all kinds of losses and hardships and they do their best to protect the interests of their friends, but to the outside world they present a stiff exterior.
- When a psychic 8 becomes angry they disturb the whole of the environment, leaving others quaking in their boots.
- 8’s can keep enmity in there hearts their whole life, they may accept defeat with a smile, and then change their strategies.
- 8’s aspire to great success and full honour, they worship work and aim at doing big things, they hate hypocrisy and deceit and they have a high standard of morals themselves making them honest, practical and clever.
- Their assessment of others is usually correct.
- 8’s are capable of going against the law and social norms, if it serves their purpose, [some 8’s will do anything to make money] then give every penny away on others without expecting anything in return.
- 8’s cannot spend money on themselves, and often this will include those in the family circle, they give it away. After age 35 and a few financial crises 8’s can hold money in their bank.
- Religion doesn’t interest a psychic eight, but they are able to gain the deepest states of meditation/ thinking.
Hillary is a very determined lady and she is likely to get to the top of her career in politics and become leader, once married and under the name of Hillary Clinton she is likely to become President of America at some stage, but lets see if astrology can give more information as to what she will do if elected President.
Soul Group Chart
The soul group chart shows me the information of the energetic “fabric” [frequency] from which the natal chart is made, it gives the soul group purpose, and gives clues to the numerous possibilities and goal direction in a natal chart.
Often people recognise this soul energy as describing their “nature” it has more say than the natal chart, which sometimes can appear quite different.
- The energy comes in on Venus and the fifth ray personality wise and for soul purposes it is on Uranus and the 7th ray.
- The 5th ray concept makes for an ideas person, as in a scientist, technician, lawyer, engineer, researcher, computer expert and logician.
- The soul level brings in organization, therefore, this combination in earthly terms creates a person who formulates ideas and gives order to them. Venus in its basic form is about money.
- Right at the heart of the energy is adeptness at handling energy, in our material world this is about handling money and investments, the soul group concern themselves with finances and the application of them, if the natal chart and numerology comply.
- This group energy is highly shrewd and analytical and like nothing better than insuring the smooth operation of business, family and their organization.
- The soul group are called in when something is failing, and they go in and clean things up and get things going again.
- The group zero in on problems and correct them, ensuring that the same thing never happens again.
- The group are positive thinkers, dislike waste, misuse of things and negative acts and thoughts.
- It’s not about being on a crusade for them, but practicality in business.
- The soul group tends to make two types of people, the first sort is very careful, avoiding all upsets and dangerous involvements, which mirrors their emotional attitude to life, extroverted, intense, imaginative and romantic.
- The second type are not that interested in people, but love work, projects work and business, this type is generous with affection and unguarded.
- The successful people let their money live and flow, the least successful, fear loosing what they have.
- The energy has to flow.
- At the heart of the energy is the Mercury/Pluto midpoint, which represents the art of persuasion, a keen observer with prudence and vision. This could cover speaking and writing, another midpoint is Mars/Jupiter, which is about making fortunate decisions, it also refers to learned and educated people, academics or directors.
- Another midpoint is Uranus/Pluto, which shows that the energy is about the collapsing of the old order of things, and is used for reformation.
- In a nutshell the soul group deal with that which is collapsing, go in, think of a way of turning things around and do it. It’s most likely to be in an advisory way, but speeches [lecturing] and writing [books] are other expressions.
Mercury conjunct the fixed star Zuben Elgenubi;
Generally this is thought of a malevolent star because it can dish out harsh judgements! But, its appearance in better aspect is often just the right moment to repair a relationship and to reconsider an earlier harsh judgment. Well aspected we have someone of courage who will fight for right, but is generous to his opponents when they are defeated.
Mars conjunct the fixed star Altair;
Sharp mind, trouble through friends, society and companies but eventual gain. (Robson).
Generally speaking the star bestows the ability to act with ruthlessness, like giving the ability to cut out the rotting flesh from the wound, so the organism can go on living. (Lynn Wincott ) see what eminent astrologers of the past say;
General influence of the star: It confers a bold, confident, valiant, unyielding, ambitious and liberal nature, great and sudden but ephemeral wealth, and a position of command, makes its natives guilty of bloodshed, and gives danger from reptiles. (Robson).
Associated with immoderate ambition. (Larousse Encyclopedia of Astrology).
Tied up with benefic stellar bodies, Altair is credited with bestowing hardiness, courage and generosity, especially if on the Ascendant. If Mercury and Moon are positioned here, this will make people as bold as brass and foolhardy in order to assert themselves. Near the upper Meridian (MC) and in good aspect, Altair promises rise in life and honours. The native tries with sincere conviction to reach out for his aims with utmost will power. He will avoid nothing in order to achieve them. Altair is good for advancement of lawyers and military men. (Ebertin).
The Eagle, soars to the heights, the bird of mighty Jupiter carrying thunderbolts, it is a bird worthy of Jupiter and the sky, which it furnishes with awful armaments. This bird brings back the thunderbolts which Jupiter has flung and fights in the service of heaven: He that is born on earth in the hour of its rising will grow up bent on spoil and plunder won even with bloodshed; he will draw no line between peace and war, between citizen and foe, and when he is short of men to kill he will engage in butchery of beast. He is a law unto himself, and rushes violently wherever his fancy takes him; in his eyes to show contempt for everything merits praise. Yet, should perchance his aggressiveness be enlisted in a righteous cause, depravity will turn into virtue, and he will succeed in bringing wars to a conclusion and enriching his country with glorious triumphs. And, since the Eagle does not wield, but supplies weapons, seeing that it brings back and restores to Jupiter the fires and bolts he has hurled, in time of war such a man will be the aide of a king or of some mighty general, and his strength will render them important service. (Manilus, book 5 of Astronomica 1st century AD).
Saturn conjunct Sualocin
It gives a simple appearance, cheerfulness, dissembling and duplicity. There is a fondness for pleasure, ecclesiastical matters and travel, but danger of suffering from ingratitude. (Robson).
Alpheratz conj the Ascendant
General influence of the star: According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Jupiter and Venus, and to these Alvidas adds Mars also. It gives independence, freedom, love, riches, honour and a keen intellect. (Robson).
Harmonious nature which makes for popularity. If it is in affinity to propitious stellar bodies and with the personal points MC, Asc, Sun, Moon, one can count on becoming well known in public and popularity with the masses. (Ebertin)
This indicates that the soul group energy is interested in being well known, gains little appreciation from others and goes right in there in the midst of chaos and cuts all the dead wood out rather ruthlessly!
This soul group seems rather extreme, but Hillary actually has extremely high moral standards, she is here to purify the system and get rid of the dead wood. Unfortunately it looks like she will not gain much gratitude for what she does.
Natal Chart
Of the given time 8.00am


I am wondering at the possibility of Hillary Clinton having been born just a few minutes earlier, I have not rectified her chart in any way, but think it may be relevant ; as the Jupiter Ascendant line runs very close to Washington DC.
If Hillary Clinton’s birth time is moved to 7.53 am, it would make the Jupiter Ascendant Line pass right through Washington DC.
I’m inclined to think that she may have been born slightly earlier. The two reports can be compared.


There is another possible time which is 7.57am, Astrologer Don Borkowski aligns the 4 degree Virgo Midhaven with Chelsea Clintons Mars -Jupiter conjunction. She was born by caesarean section.

Pre-natal eclipse
The pre natal eclipse gives more information on the work a person is going to do during life, sometimes it describes the attributes of the work involved, other times the driving force behind doing that work or even the experience while doing that work and sometimes all three!
Pre natal Eclipse
May 20th 1947
28 42 Taurus
Relating to Moon-Venus
The eclipse made contact in Hillary’s 7th house, suggesting that her life and work is going to be in dealing with people as in counselling, lawyers, etc.
- This position is about giving a prolific expression, enthusiasm is unbounded.
- Sharing with others of their own personal inner experience, they may find themselves mistakenly be cast in the role of an entertainer.
- This position is about being “wide spread”, wide ranging interests, and world wide.
- There is a lot of travel involved.
- Mentally this position is associated with being quick thinking, highly critical. The mind just never turns off therefore boredom is never an issue, as this position is about rigorously examining subjective ideas with the mind.
- Jumping from one project to another at alarming speed.
Syzergy Moon
14 October 1947
20 03 Libra
This Syzergy Moon is most important as it shapes the career choices and has great meaning in life generally.
The Syzergy moon is in the 11th house of groups, having influence over governments and large institutions. Counselling bodies, legislatures,
Libra is about resolving conflict and opposing forces. A very diplomatic influence.
This position gives a person a great deal of composure and reserve, everything done is extremely important to them. It’s about living a moderate life, travelling greatly. It’s about communication of knowledge, critiquing others.
Life path
This represents a lesson to be learnt and a certain attitude to be developed in life, the life path not only covers peoples reactions to a given situation that can manifest in a positive way or in a negative way, but it also gives clues to a persons purpose for being here, their own individual soul purpose that forms part of “The Plan” is often revealed here.
While some people jump in and know just what is expected of their life, others who possibly have not had the same experience quite naturally explore both the positive and negative expressions of a life path before finally settling on the most beneficial to themselves.
These life paths are not to be considered lightly, those who choose to not take up the challenge of their life path can become ill, some life paths are so powerful that if they are wrongly interpreted or misused they can result in suicide as the only way out.
The life path planets have horary values of -5 and +5, which means there is great adaptability, travel, cleverness and analytical abilities, but there is much restlessness and being prone to be impatient.
The life path is ruled by Cancer and the planets Moon and Neptune.
Neptune was energized by the pre natal Syzergy Moon. Inspiring altruism. Expanding compassion, wanting to bring her idea of truth and justice into the world. Taking up the cause of the underdog, specifically in the segment of the population which is suffering or mistreated.
Cancer rules the 9th house of Law, quite likely the main focus of her work will be in this area. Also it is the natural house of Jupiter, her numerical destiny number.
It suggests law and educational institutions; she has her works published, travels.
The laws she aims to change are the ones associated with those who are suffering or mistreated, the female energy would imply she would back in particular ; women’s education, female suffering, equality laws, her objectivity is to bring balance.
- This life path is about a person believing in themselves, having been exposed to the debris of old truths and traditions and not being satisfied with what they find.
- It makes this lifetime dedicated to searching for a new expression of truth.
- The old codes and customs are reduced to nothing more than ash and heat as they fail to live up to the present day life experiences.
- Much is rejected to get down to the fundamental principles, and these principles come from the self, because much of what is seen and up weighed is left to look greatly wanting, the existing reality looks pretty false and biased in favour and therefore lacking in truth.
- As a new vision of the world emerges, often it is somewhat void of feeling because of the great intensity of the personal feeling regarding the falseness of those around her.
- By creating just a mental world devoid of feeling, but full of logic, the world seems a fairer place, but in their heart they know living without human emotion is a barren place which they could not exist in themselves.
- The new world seen in the vision created satisfies a person because it has all the elements of their own reality.
- The person grows stronger and develops great faith in themselves.
- The life path requires a person to sever whatever emotional bonds that deter them from their proper business, and that justify their vision of life.
- A person may withdraw from family or employment and will embark on something that is totally true to the heart.
- The life path requires a person to drive forward and to make real what they see as the new truth born of this generation, destroying all that is dead and lay obstructing the path.
- Out of phase a person will fear to express themselves. [hence Mercury- Saturn square to overcome in her chart]
Hillary is here to make changes in the law systems of America, cutting out that which is no longer appropriate in this new generation, a process that is necessary in the evolution of America. It could be said that the focus of her work would also involve education and those who are suffering, it will cover hospitals and institutions, and peoples personal rights to an improved standard of living. She might also tackle Americas drug problem because the soul ruler Neptune is so prominent.
If Hillary is chosen she will be working from her inner truth, and will not be swayed by greed.
- Planets on special degrees; Saturn very close to 22 degrees Leo, may pick up on being her own worst enemy!
- Planetary stations: Mercury slow having just turned retrograde; Mercury powerful.
- Final depositors; none
- Mutual receptions; Sun -Pluto 1st and 9th houses, law and herself. Becoming the law, representing the law, living the law, changing the law.
- Interceptions; 3rd & 9th, Aquarius Leo. Work focussed in law and communications.
- Detriment; Venus, [ruler of 7th, 11th and 12th in 12th] Husbands betrayal while acting as Government leader! [Bill Clintons misdemeanour]
- The closest aspect; Mercury Square Mars. Hillary holds back from speaking her mind earlier in life, but authoritively speaks her mind later in life, Sun sextile MC, success orientated, public leader.
- Retrogrades; Mercury; spatial intuitive thinker, recognises patterns and outcomes instantly. Mercury powerful by being slow moving. A planet to watch as it will have great impact on her work and life.
Sun, 2 18 Scorpio, ruler of intercepted 9th in 12th
Horary value of +5 ; analytical, dynamic, social, wanting liberation.
Drawn to charitable and humanitarian efforts, concerns for hospitals, prisons, education, the law regarding these institutions, the teaching and philosophies in these areas.
Concerns with liberation and philanthropic organizations. Hospitals, education and prisons. Provides knowledge to others.
Highly competitive, passionate, strong will, a leader, a director, good investigative skills, success later in life, keeps young looking. Highly intuitive.
This shows that Hillary will be passionate in changing the laws and lot of those associated with education, prisons and hospitals, giving her knowledge and advice, that she will be a leader in the campaign for change and liberation.
- Relates to Saturn-Pluto
- This position is about reforming and re-organizing all sorts of groups from church groups to political groups.
- It is a leadership role position usually, but can be an advisory role; the desire is to obtain a smoothly operating organisation.
- Teamwork is preferred, but it’s a position that can work alone.
- She will put the group before anything else, other than her own private goals, which may be dependant on the fortunes of the group.
- Hillary knows how power works in society, there may be a financially symbiotic relationship.
- Hillary is very good with money.
- She will not endanger long term prospects of the group and will make sacrifices when necessary.
- She may appear fearless, highly controlled and with directed actions usually.
- She prefers to give a hardened public image.
- She is a planner and a doer; will reorganize from top to bottom even if it arouses a lot of antagonism.
- Hillary has strong leadership capabilities and is very responsible.
- This position is serious, careers are built slowly and there is much moral and physical strength.
- A person is financially astute and organized within a group, although possibly repressive.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; becoming leader of a group, various projects happening within the group.
Moon 22 50 Pisces, ruler of 9th in 4th
Horary value of -5 usually comes across as impatience or discontent with the world in some way.
Possibly lives as sometime in the grounds of a University, well educated, good family support.
Good home life, and comforts of home, well mannered and supported, possibly unmet expectations in domestic life.
Has an ability to feel and comprehend deeply. Intuitive, humanitarian, has a strong belief in something, a visionary and idealistic.
- Relates to Mercury - Neptune
- This position is about understanding the concepts of relativity, not only one person in relation to another. In one manner it is about where a person stands in society and therefore may give a person a sense of a role and duty within society, and in another sense it is about seeing all points of view.
- People with this position are family orientated.
- Seeing all points of views, and looking from different levels of understanding, makes a person unsympathetic to any one point of view, because there is an understanding that energy is interactive and that interaction is perceived differently by all.
- Absolute points of view are out, constantly changing minds and modifying principles are in.
- The planes of existence are considered simultaneously, those themes of emotional, physical and mental, may be put on another level of universality, which may create yet another set of principles.
- Something is believed in; a God, science or consciousness, or all three, which is redefined again and again over time so as to understand where their particular place is. In Hillary’s case from her Sun identity it can be seen to be liberation, other planetary placements show that spirituality enters Hillary’s life after the age of 50.
- A simple view is no longer simple depending on how it is viewed, there can be great frustration reconciling varying points of view.
- Hillary usually works independent from others, people rarely see the sense of humour that she possesses, or how the thoughts and opinions are expressed forcefully.
- Hillary is very selective in her friends.
- Attributes of tolerance and acceptance are developed, knowing anyone can be right, depending on the perspective.
- There is interest in the healing arts; problems may come through fluid retention and circulation.
- There is a high sensitivity to stimuli such as smells, colours and sounds.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; a change of mind, a new perspective is gained on an old problem, oedema, an understanding on another level. A new experience, a new interest in healing, an aspect of physics. Intuiting something new.
The Moon position shows that Hillary is basically discontented with how she perceives the world, she is very aware that judgement is about perspective of view, and good judgement requires a reconciliation of views, her vision is for an unbiased judgement system.
Mercury 21 24 Scorpio, ruler of 8th and 10th on Ascendant/1st house.
Horary value of +2
Long life, good researcher & investigator, diagnostician, gains money through unearned sources, donations, will’s etc.
Entrepreneur, leading big projects, undertaking challenging tasks, promotes the self, strong personality, tenacious. [Going for presidency?]
Very powerful mind oriented lady, debates and questions issues, is conscientious, principled, ethical, philosophical, good speaker, looks young, likes to read, inventive and generally cheerful.
- Relates to Mercury -Pluto
- This position is all about investigation.
- People associated with this position are intensely curious about their surroundings; highly selective about their interests and have a well defined point of view, their idea of social responsibility is moral in nature.
- This position guides the lives of other people, quickly seeing what needs to be improved and targeting it.
- The improvements made come from a subjective point of view.
- People’s strengths and weaknesses are instantly seen in any situation.
- This position is totally self reliant, allowing the flatterers and those with ulterior motives to be easily recognizable and dismissed for what they are.
- This position does its homework, all investigations and probing is done before putting any theories to the test, that which has no functional or produce negative results is discarded.
- It’s a highly objective position.
- Much of this position is about working the inner truths, which can have a great impact on the career and work.
- It is a highly ambitious and powerful position; there is not much room for compromise.
- It is a highly powerful and intellectual position it allows new truths to be learned and incorporated into life.
- This position is highly involved, thorough and observant, but can be overly critical.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; investigating, discarding that which does not work anymore, bringing in new truths, guiding the lives of others.
Mercury is so important in Hillary’s chart as it sits on the Ascendant and is a major statement about herself, she is a powerful mind person, investigating and throwing out the dead wood, that which no longer works. Her soul group is expressing itself in her chart very strongly. She is speaking truths and bringing in new understandings.
Venus at 16 14 Scorpio, ruler of 6th , 7th 11th [&12th ] in 12th
Horary value of 0, means that this becomes a major challenge in Hillary’s life. It relates to her husband betraying her while being government leader.
Serving others and bringing liberation, employees from other countries.
Possible separation [ divorce] mate gets involved in secret affairs or has a secret lover.
Involved in charitable and humanitarian activities, clinics, prisons, hospitals, detention centres.
Helps the hopeless and helpless, well grounded. Concerns with fines and punishments.
This not only refers to Hillary’s husband Bill Clinton, but also gives further clues to the impulses behind his actions. She may also find her friends and employees tend to succumb to “ temptation” too.
Liberal in love, seeks solitude for rejuvenation, has concerns for correctional institutions, educational institutions and hospitals, associated with charitable organizations.
- Relates to Mars-Pluto
- This position is all about “Temptation”, and the great desire to experience earthly pleasures of all sorts; it’s about searching for “highs” through experience, which are usually of a sexual nature.
- It’s an excitable position that gets caught up in the moment.
- When not distracted this position[ Bill Clinton] is about taking up the challenge and directing his talents into a constructive and productive way.
- Often this position represents a moral dilemma, social morality verse personal morality, or upbringing verse adult experience. It can happen all in the public spotlight, which focuses the mind in a big way.
- In some peoples charts this can show being engaged in dangerous or shadowy activities, not just illicit affairs.
- There is a great joy of discovery; there can be great realizations about life itself.
- Important realizations are made, and a new philosophy comes with age, along with prudent and wise choices, a person may withdraw and be contemplative afterwards, it’s usual for the morals and ethics to grow to a higher standard as an outcome.
- People can live close to the edge, and can be seen to be mercenary in their relationships and they are highly sensitive to rejection.
- This is a highly ambitious position, utterly ruthless, but it has the ability to make deep meaningful transformations bringing great wisdom.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; succumbing to temptation.
Venus in Hillary’s chart is really about her husband and his development, what actually attracted her to him was also the factor which she faced everyday in a law court, most ordinary crimes are done through spotting the opportunity and then personally giving in to temptation, an aspect of humanity which she is addressing, “what will stop people giving into temptation and reaching out”, she will have the answers.
Mars, 14 00 Leo ruler of 5th in 9th.
Horary value of +5; analytical, adventurous.
Understands the subtle workings of life, astute knowledge of the law, ethics and justice.
Mars represents the 6th house of service and defence, techniques and work skills.
Leading philosophical undertakings, active traveller, lawyer, publishes, free thinker, expansive vision, partner is adventurous.
This describes her creative work. Which is about exposure of “the heart of the system”.
- Represents Sun -Neptune
- This position is irresistibly attracted to secretiveness and undercover events of all types.
- It’s a position that delves into secrets, wants to uncover the codes, secrets and loves nothing better than revealing some new piece of information.
- It’s a real detective position, ferreting out truth and putting it to some lucrative use.
- This position can make enemies by uncovering truths, namely those who the disclosures are about. At some level there is no concern for the result of the disclosure, because after thoroughly researching their findings, there is validity in the statements made, it is not about hearsay.
- This position may reveal about themselves, in a biography or such like.
- The partner of a person associated with this position may not be aware of the secret world inhibited.
- Two roles can be played together at the same time, two characters or two jobs of work, yet one may be revealed posthumously.
- Humour is a tool for lightening a potentially dangerous situation.
- Sometimes the complete truth is not told.
- This position is about being visionary, clever, funny and adept if not prying.
- Possible manifestation of transits etc; revealing a secret, becoming a double agent of sorts or getting to the bottom of things, gaining the truth.
Mars Conj The fixed star Dubhe
Loving but forceful.
Hillary has great intuitive abilities, and will leave no stone unturned, she knows when something is not right, hidden or made exception to the rule, or even if the rule amounts to suppression of certain sections of the people.
Jupiter, 00 31 Sagittarius, ruler of 2nd in 1st
Horary value of +7; analytical, deep thinker, dignified, educator. Great strength.
Good earning capacity and ability to earn money, speaks well, studies and gathers data prior to taking action.
Expansive disposition, knows the wise thing to do, easy going, educated, educator, consultant, wealthy benevolent life. Possible husband problems.
Highly influential, trustworthy, humanitarian, knowledge giver, socially adept, progressive, wise, good sense of humour.
- Relates to Mercury - Jupiter.
- This position dislikes repression and authority, it will not believe in something just because it exists or is in place, or people say so.
- Everything has to be justified and proven to be of any worth.
- That which does not make the grade, can be dismissed with a gesture or very few words.
- It’s a position that will not back down from a confrontation and has a tendency to provoke argument. Those who are not respected stay away from their company.
- There can be sensitivities about certain issues, rebellious children/childhood, parental conflict and death.
- This position can have great wit and humour, it diffuses many potentially explosive situations, but regardless this is potentially a position of authorative figures.
- There is speed of thought, changeable minds and a desire for new and unusual experiences. There is human understanding and a proneness to feelings of isolation and rejection.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; showing irreverence, proving something’s worth, a confrontation, not believing in something.
Jupiter is Hillary’s numerology life destiny, she takes nothing at face value, it has to be proven, from a soul perspective she is concerned with the use of life energies and shaping matter [people] as an expression of spiritual values. Her life is about changing people’s spiritual values, changing the way of looking at life.
Saturn 21 19 Leo, ruler of 3rd in intercepted 9th
Horary value of -10, this manifests into the physical realm.
Has success as writer, has problems with legal matters and conflicts, [as she wants to change all that doesn’t work] success as a lecturer, ultimately wins.
The focus is on high ideals, helping others, being analytical, publishes, legal mind.
Focussed dependable, hard working, persistent, offers good service, may take on too much responsibility.
- Relates to Sun-Mercury
- This position acts like a mirror, reflecting the state of affairs back on itself.
- There are two modes of expression; the first embodies the philosophies and characteristics of the times, with all the strengths and weaknesses, a typical example of the characteristics and mirrors those around them.
- The second is about analyzing and commenting and laying everything to bare so that the people in society at large can see the world in another way.
- It is the position of a leader, teacher or guide. In a worldly way.
- It’s not about dominating or dictating to others, yet this position does produce leaders in the field.
- The issues are concerned with integrity and morality and human experience.
- It’s about holding a mirror up to people and situations so that they can see themselves as they really are.
- Others may react with irreverence or disgust, or laughter, but what is shown is ultimately insightful, a remote view.
- It’s a very human place, with very human faults and problems, there are struggles which are painfully evident, and this is the very nature of the revelations and insights.
- It’s not a position that gains sympathy from others, but gives admiration to those who bring answers.
- There is some mirroring image at work; some of the self is reflected in the mate, in some form, through ideals or nature of work or experience.
- A rational and analytical position, open to change, is observant and honest.
- It’s about revealing the truth of a situation.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; exposure, seeing personal behaviour in others, commenting, analyzing, showing the human experience.
This is the first real indication that Hillary potentially can be President, through the mirror of her husband’s position as President. She will be a leader in a campaign to change outdated laws; numerology has placed her as a leader, head of her particular discipline, and astrology has shown us that she will not take her place until later in life.
I do think at this moment and this stage of completing her chart that she will only go for Presidency if it is keeping with her soul directive, if she can change laws from that position, more so than in the position she holds at the moment. It depends on what is the most effective position for her.
Uranus 25 56 Gemini retrograde, ruler of intercepted 3rd in 8th
Gets support, lots of her efforts are geared towards research.
- This position takes what it does very seriously, and goals are taken very seriously and there is great responsibility about what is done.
- This position makes high demands of itself and also puts heavy burdens on those who are close.
- Employees are exposed to high morals and stern and demanding obedience.
- There is impatience, which makes teaching in this position difficult.
- Cannot stand incompetence and would rather do it themselves.
- It’s a position that is extremely persuasive in its arguments, and knowing just how to apply pressure.
- This influential position has influence even after retirement from office.
- There is a strong mental presence.
- This position is associated with planning, designers, and travellers. There is much sense of direction and understanding of spatial realities and often very unique methods are used in these practices, the logic becomes clear to others after being proven.
- It’s a position that can fall into addictions.
- This position can be highly critical, highly persuasive and spatially aware.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; pressurising another, proving something, a moral issue.
This shows me that Hillary has some unusual arguments and successful ways that deal with peoples realities, it’s a unique take but once proven others will grasp the ideas quickly.
Neptune 11 21 Libra, ruler of 4th in 11th
Gains through learning, training, gain through influential friend on mothers side of the family.
The prenatal Syzergy Moon highlighted Neptune just before Hillary’s birth.
Neptune in Libra is about the search for ideal balance in relationships, it signifies the projection of self-sacrifice and devotion into the interpersonal dynamics of life, and it’s a very good placement for a “relationship counsellor”.
- Relates to Mercury- Venus
- This position is all about Justice.
- It’s about putting truth above everything.
- It opposes unfairness, oppression and corruption.
- People associated with this position often work at the highest echelons of society, insisting on fair treatment.
- Speeches may be about fair play, the whole theme is about fair play.
- It’s a position that will self sacrifice or live with self denial if it means a greater improvement to others well being and living up to personal ideals.
- Likes to work as a team, and gains a great buzz from seeing the gratitude of those who benefit from the work.
- It is a strong independent position, but the heart warms when being appreciated.
- It is a highly humanitarian position, and people associated with this position are usually immersed in human activities.
- This position will often take a person who appears a misfit, in some aspect or parameters, and them when they become successful this person may actually redefine the public image of the role that is played. The misfit changes social instincts and becomes the perfect role model.
- The main objectivity is to get the job done.
- Criticism is spoken of what went before them, but a new constructive vision of life is made.
- This position has charm and socially magnetic, opportunities often arise.
- The possible manifestations of transits; putting forward the truth, fighting for justice or a just cause, fighting corruption.
The greatest purpose of Hillary’s work will be about fighting for a just cause, bringing justice to those who she considers are suffering and subject to unfairness. Her life is devoted to “justice” for all.
Pluto 14 51 Leo, ruler of [12th ] and 1st in intercepted 9th.
Does well in law and justice work, works at University level of education, father very supportive, high ethics, truthful, philosophical.
This is the same position as Mars.
- Represents Sun -Neptune
- This position is irresistibly attracted to secretiveness and undercover events of all types. The underworld has great fascination, and all that is hidden.
- It’s a position that delves into secrets, wants to uncover the codes, secrets and loves nothing better than revealing some new piece of information.
- It’s a real detective position, ferreting out truth and putting it to some lucrative use.
- This position can make enemies by uncovering truths, namely those who the disclosures are about. At some level there is no concern for the result of the disclosure, because after thoroughly researching their findings, there is validity in the statements made, it is not about hearsay.
- This position may reveal about themselves, in a biography or such like.
- The partner of a person associated with this position may not be aware of the secret world inhibited.
- Two roles can be played together at the same time, two characters or two jobs of work, yet one may be revealed posthumously.
- Humour is a tool for lightening a potentially dangerous situation.
- Sometimes the complete truth is not told.
- This position is about being visionary, clever, funny and adept if not prying.
- Possible manifestation of transits etc; revealing a secret, becoming a double agent of sorts, having two interests or getting to the bottom of things, gaining the truth.
Pluto Parallel The fixed star Hamal;
According to Ptolemy it is of the nature of Mars and Saturn; and, to Alvidas, of Venus and Saturn. It causes violence brutishness, cruelty and premeditated crime. (Robson).
Headstrong and often aggressive, yet potentially capable leaders and protectors of their community, all qualities of the Ram. (Dr. Eric Morse).
Pluto conj the fixed star Dubhe
loving but forceful.
I do think these fixed stars speak more of the nature of what she is dealing with rather than attributes of herself. That which she sees and wants to change.
Interestingly her chart makes no bones about her intensions, her Ascendant sign Scorpio has two planetary rules in the shape of Mars and Pluto and they are found exactly on the same degree and position in the intercepted 9th house. There is absolutely no mistaking the focus of her energy, also being in the intercepted houses it speaks of what she deals with while in office.
Ascendant
This is how we see ourselves and it is not necessarily the way that others see us, it can be quite revealing, a person may feel weak and nervous inside but present the world with a cool calm picture of tranquillity, the inner and outer reality are not the same.
23 Scorpio, for 7.53am
If Hillary Clinton was born at 7.53 am she would see herself as being highly perceptive and insightful with an eye for politics and just causes.
- Relates to Uranus -Pluto
- This position is all about being highly perceptive and insightful when commenting on the times.
- Statements are made about what is going on around them that are usually of a political or social nature.
- Strong opinions are given about what does work and that which doesn’t work.
- The interests are outward, and the focus is outward, and when powerfully equipped the people associated with this position move toward realizing their cause.
- It is a rational position, where the world is comprehended in a common -sense manner, rather than through some religion or belief system.
- But middle life may see some spiritual input, where a belief system is incorporated with the logic.
- The personal view is to oppose all forms of injustice; this may be put forward in a dogmatic and authoritarian manner.
- Doesn’t fall for false schemes or dubious arguments.
- Reacts against any system that is considered unworthy.
- This position is outspoken, even argumentative, sometimes this position plays upsetting roles in the lives of others.
- There is a desire to change the rules, and have idiosyncratic beliefs.
- The position is knowledgeable and involved with a spiritual outlook.
- Possible manifestations of transits are; giving insightful comments, giving an opinion, advancing a cause.
For 8.00 am birthtime
21 45 Scorpio
If Hillary Clinton was born at 8.00am she would see herself as an investigator or researcher. This is the same position as Mercury, just to make it even more confusing.
- Relates to Mercury -Pluto
- This position is all about investigation.
- People associated with this position are intensely curious about their surroundings; highly selective about their interests and have a well defined point of view, their idea of social responsibility is moral in nature.
- This position guides the lives of other people, quickly seeing what needs to be improved and targeting it.
- The improvements made come from a subjective point of view.
- People’s strengths and weaknesses are instantly seen in any situation.
- This position is totally self reliant, allowing the flatterers and those with ulterior motives to be easily recognizable.
- This position does its homework, all investigations and probing is done before putting any theories to the test, that which has no functional or produce results is discarded.
- It’s a highly objective position.
- Much of this position is about working the inner truths, which can have a great impact on the career and work.
- It is a highly ambitious and powerful position; there is not much room for compromise.
- It is a highly powerful and intellectual position it allows new truths to be learned and incorporated into life.
- This position is highly involved, thorough and observant, but can be overly critical.
- Possible manifestations of transits etc; investigating, discarding that which does not work anymore, bringing in new truths, guiding the lives of others.
I have no idea how Hillary Clinton sees herself, and both positions do have similarities.
The Equatorial ascendant
This is how other people see us, it is the face we show to the world and it may be quite different to what we think.
For 7.53
6 33 Sagittarius.
- Relates to Moon-Jupiter
- This position is about provoking others, in order to think.
- It’s about stirring up and being a trouble maker in some peoples eyes.
- It about knowing just how to push others buttons.
- The truth is paramount, transgressions can be frightening.
- May contribute to stability of social and political causes.
- But be contained with self more than worldly ambitions, tends to stay at a certain level.
- A position that judges others and reveals their motives.
For 7.57
Sagittarius and 8 13 Sagittarius.
Hillary would be seen by others in this way.
- Relates to Jupiter- Jupiter
- This position is about knowing just when to attack and just how to overcome others.
- It is about being calculating, careful and effective.
- A highly intuitive place, particularly towards those who would obstruct them such as rivals and competitors.
- It’s about spotting a perspective client, preparing a concept and then going over every scenario so all angles are covered. Then setting up a meeting with full consent of the person and moving in for the kill. Everything is composed and thought out down to what they wear. [sounds very much like preparing a judgement in a court of law]
- All the talents are pushed to the limit, with little waste of energy. There is thought provoking humour.
- Attacks are met with a hard wall of defence, [is Hillary a defence lawyer?] and then later with a measured retaliation designed to hurt.
- It’s also about rising to the highest positions in their sphere.
I think this shows Hillary as a defence lawyer, it shows all the motions, and the mutual reception of the Sun and Pluto shows that she will be totally identified with her career as a lawyer.
It looks like the most likely time for her birth is just before 8.00 am and with the 4 Virgo MC.
Chiron, the comet of enlightenment at
Chiron Conj the fixed star Alphecca; bestowing honour.
12 17 Scorpio.
Chiron is in the 12th house conjunct Venus, showing that her husband has created great hurt and a shift in her self. Her life path did indicate that she would separate from him and go onto do greater things, the hurt really making her get in touch with her inner core beliefs.
She undoubtedly would get to the bottom of what happened before anyone else, this is where her enlightenment comes from, the natal charts closest aspect is a square between Mercury -Saturn,[not speaking her mind] her life path showed the negative manifestation to be through failing to express herself, this one big shock turns her around to stand up and speak her mind, Saturn square Mercury always promises this later in life.
In a very progressive chart like Hillary’s Saturn Square Mercury shows there is a fear of speaking out because of the awareness of others narrow mindedness and “I know they won’t listen”, because in order to do so it means going against established thinking.
Interestingly Chiron is also square Mars -Pluto conjunction, Her husbands public betrayal triggering the change in her outlook and environment.
- This position relates to Mercury -Pluto
- It is about being totally realistic, speaking the truth as it is seen.
- It’s about wanting to debunk myths and expose lies and half truths for what they are.
- This is about going in and rocking the boat, aligning with a cause and solving mysteries.
- It’s about revealing the truth and figuring out puzzles.
- About knowing all what is going on and being ahead of it.
- Unfortunately the position does antagonise people.
N node
This is what we leave to our fellow man after we pass on, and sometimes this can be quite bizarre, it’s about our effect on the world. Our special contribution to society.
23 34 Taurus
- Relates to Mercury - Venus
- This position shows that she will leave her vision of what the judiciary world will be like in one or two hundred years time, although she worked very much in the present toward changes.
- She will be known for having made a break with traditional methods in law; her aim was to eliminate all faults from the existing systems.
- She would be seen as hard driving and demanding, dynamic and contemplative.
- She will be seen as having been ahead of her time, misunderstood and possibly scorned at the beginning of her career, but that would change by the end of it.
- People would have great appreciation of her work, once they manage to catch up with her thinking.
- She mentally had to shrug some debility off [BC?] and not be daunted.
- She will be known for listening to critics and assimilating good advice.
N Node conjunct the fixed star Capulus
The constellation is indicative of events effecting large numbers of people, especially those events caused by major meteorological phenomena. When prominent in a natal chart it is said to denote adventurous individuals, but also those who are less than honest in their dealings with others. (Noonan).
This suggests that the changes she makes effect large amounts of people. Her chart shows her to be very honest in many planetary positions so the negativity of dishonesty will not show itself.
Summary
I think it can be said that Hillary Clinton will make huge changes that will effect the whole of America, it will be to do with changing the laws that are no longer working in the judicial system, there will be much opposition and nobody will thank her for what she is doing, but she is driven through her view of the truth and justice.
What a great symbol for the 1st female American president, the exact image and symbolism of the statue of Liberty itself! An enlightened soul, working from her inner truth, and humanitarianly driven, the true symbolism of America coming out through her.
But is America ready for her! She’s ready for America.
My own thoughts are that Hillary will take her place in a few years time and during the transit of Pluto in Capricorn, as Capricorn rules the US government.
Pluto transforms and gets rid of all that is no longer useful or appropriate. So yes Hillary as President and pruning the old wood would be very appropriate during that period.
Hillary's Pre Natal syzergy Moon was conj America's Saturn; meaning "government". Her changes are focussed through the American government.
Pluto starts going into Capricorn in 2009,[ its a matter of looking for the 11-14 degrees Libra activation.]
America has a Saturn return during the latter months of 2010 and going into 2011, on 14 Libra, an ideal time for changes in American law.
October 7 2010 ; There is a new Moon on America's Saturn, ruling the 8th and 9th houses, signifying the start of changes being made in the law.
Nov 21 2010 ; Hillarys PNE is activated by a syzergy Moon, Saturn is transiting her Neptune and America's Saturn.
Dec 21 2010; Hillary's 8th house is activated by an eclipse in Gemini, ruled by Mercury on Hillary's Ascendant, activating the whole chart.
January 2011; Jan 4th ; eclipse activates Hillary's Su/Moon midpoint, 1 degree orb.
Feb 3rd ; New Moon opp Mars -Pluto conjunction in 3rd.
Feb 18th; Full Moon on Hillary's Sun/Uranus midpoint, and Regulus.
Hillary's Jupiter/Pluto Midpoint is at 7 41 Libra, the Solar Arc MC moves to make a 30 degree aspect to Jupiter/Pluto Midpoint.
2012 June Hillary's SA Sun = Jupiter /Pluto.
I think America will see much more of Hillary.
© Lynn Wincott 18 May 2005
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